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Nozbe 2.0 finally released

Thursday, August 13th, 2009

nozbe20-loggedAfter months of waiting (and being teased with a partially-finished beta a few months ago), Nozbe 2.0 has finally been released.

I’ve intentionally waited a few days to talk about it, because I wasn’t sure how I felt.  My initial reaction was pretty disappointed. While it looked much better than previous versions, it had some substantial problems.  Here are the comments I left for their developer:

1 — No filtering on Next Actions. Why?
2 — Next actions don’t show which project they’re from until you click on each one. MUCH harder to scan through them.
3 — The list of projects still take up WAY too much space in the sidebar. Granted, I have a lot of projects (53), but it’s pretty bad. On Nozbe Classic, the bottom of my last project in the list is 1490 pixels down the page. In Nozbe 2.0, the last project is 2053 pixels down the page — a 500+ pixel increase!

I was feeling kind of bad for them at this point.  While they were very legit concerns, the blog comments were full of things like that.  We were all appreciative to the team for getting it launched, but it appeared it was in big trouble.

In fact, I even started looking around again for an alternative to Nozbe.  The two that came the closest were Vitalist and Toodledo,  but they couldn’t measure up to Nozbe even with some of the broken features.  Nirvana HQ is looking pretty slick, but it’s a closed beta and I haven’t been able to get access to it yet.

However, the very next day Nozbe posted an update that addressed every concern.  Point by point, they answered each question and explained how they’d fix it (or why they wouldn’t/couldn’t).  They even fixed item #2 from my list above right away!  There are still some issues, but they’re getting resolved quickly.  On top of that, the new features (like “notes on tasks”) are very useful.

As it stands now, I consider Nozbe 2.0 the best GTD app out there. I’ve long felt that Nozbe has been the best, and with the recent bug fixes to 2.0 they’ve kept the crown.  Hopefully Michael and his team can knock out some of the other small bugs and feature requests in the next week or two and they’ll have a pretty awesome product.

Nozbe vs. Toodledo

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

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I’ve been a Nozbe fan from day one.  In fact, that’s what got me interested in GTD.  I wanted a web-based to-do list with great iPhone support.  I found Nozbe, realized that it was GTD based, watched some of their videos, and then eventually got the GTD book and dove in.

After I realized I was a fan of GTD (and not necessarily Nozbe), I started looking for alternatives to make sure I wasn’t missing something better.  I tried quite a few, but the only one that came close was Toodledo.  I liked it enough that I decided to dive in and run them both for a few days, which made me very unproductive. :)   I came close to switching over to it, but eventually decided to stay with Nozbe.  Here’s a few reasons why:

Projects

Nozbe has Projects, and it lists them down the side.  In Toodledo, you have Folders instead.  No problem there.  The issue is that it is hard to view all of them at once when you have more than 6 or 8 of them going (and I have about 30).  Many Toodledo users create basic folders instead (such as “Home”, “Work”, etc) and then create a Task for each project.  With Toodledo, you can create sub-tasks (which is great!), thus making that system work.

However, that leads to a few issues.  First, it’s essentially a hack.  Why use a hacked-together solution for a problem that Nozbe solves perfectly?  The other problem is that it makes it hard to see exactly what project each task is for.  Using folders as projects, I could see the folder name (“My Site #1″) and the starred tasks (Next Actions) for it.  Now I see folders titled things like “My Sites” with a bunch of starred tasks, but I don’t know which site each task is for unless I click on it.  Not a huge deal, but it makes it a royal pain to scroll through a list and see what I need to be working on.

Filtering

Toodledo has some incredible filters — far better than Nozbe’s.  However, they’re missing the key one — filtering projects.  With Toodledo, your folders have names and no other data. With Nozbe, they can have tags and descriptions.  The project tags are gold.  When I get to work, I can pull up my Next Actions page, filter by “Work” and only see actions from projects that I’ve tagged for work.  Same when I get home.  With Toodledo, there is no good way to do that.

The workaround is the same as above — use folders for broad categories, then use tasks and sub-tasks for your projects.  That way I can just view the “Work” folder at work and it gets the job done, but it still leads to the problems I mentioned before.

Sharing

Both sites allow you to collaborate on items, but Nozbe’s implementation is a little better.  They do it on a per-project basis, and free accounts are allowed five projects.  That means you can collaborate with users on small things without them having to pay for an account.

With Toodledo, it’s a bit more complex.  You can share folders, but that gets strange if I only want to share a certain project with someone, since it’s just a task in a folder — I have to share the entire folder.  Not only that, but they need to pay for an account to be able to edit items in the shared folder.

That’s not to say it’s all bad.  Toodledo has some great things going for it:

  • It looks better.  Nozbe has a big redesign coming soon, but Toodledo looks a little better today.
  • It has an iPhone app.  Nozbe has an excellent iPhone-formatted site, but no native app.  Again, it’s coming soon (within a few weeks, hopefully), but Toodledo has it today.
  • It has a much more active community.  Nozbe just redid their forums and hopefully that’ll help, but Toodledo has thousands of posts in theirs and it’s a great resource.
  • It’s less expensive.  $15/year instead of $7/month.

Most of the rest of the features are about the same in both places — after all, they’re both based on GTD.  The bottom line is that Nozbe helps me get things done better than Toodledo does. What else really matters in this discussion?

I’ve shown Nozbe to a couple people (both of them were non-GTD folks), and their comment is was “that just makes sense”.  The flow is very logical.  They both signed up, and both later upgraded to paid accounts.

I’m anxious for the Nozbe iPhone app to come out, but it’s not as big of a deal as I once thought.  As I said before, I really wanted a system that I could manage from my iPhone.  The beauty of GTD is now that everything is out of my head and in a system, I no longer worry about it all the time and I rarely access it from my phone.  If I have a new thought when I’m away from a PC, I just fire it through Jott and move on.

So there you have it.  I like Nozbe a little better than Toodledo and I’ll continue to use it, but you really can’t go wrong with either service.

Which do you prefer?

A good calendar is an assumed GTD prerequisite, isn’t it?

Tuesday, December 30th, 2008

When you first start digging into GTD, most models assume that you already have a working, reliable calendar.  You have one, don’t you?

In a talk that David Allen gave a Google a while back, he told the audience that in their time together, none of them were thinking “Where am I going to be a week from Friday at 3:15?”.  The reason is because they trust that system.  They know that their calendar is updated and referenced frequently, so they’ll be aware of any items on their agenda for that day.  That’s what GTD tries to do with the rest of your life.

If you can get all of your tasks into a system, and your mind can trust that you’ll access the system often enough to avoid letting things slip through the cracks, then you can free your mind from worrying about those things.  It’s a beautiful thing.

I don’t think it’s worth getting deep into calendar specifics, but make sure yours is solid.  Most of you have a system that you use and trust, and that’s great.  However, if you’re looking for some ideas to improve your system, I’ll lay mine out and maybe you can get something from it.

  • Google Calendar.  Solid system, accessible from anywhere, easy to share data with co-workers, friends, etc.
  • SaiSuke for iPhone.  It’s $10 (though there is a free test version as well) and it does a great job of syncing itself to your Google Calendar.  Very handy when you’re on the go.
  • Nozbe and Toodledo.  I’m going back and forth between these two programs (more about that in a later post), but both can push your time-sensitive tasks directly to your Google Calendar, or a variety of other calendars such as iCal.
  • Jott.  You can Jott items directly to your calendar.  It’s slick, though I really don’t use it for that very often.
  • You can also SMS items directly to your calendar.  Send a message to 48368 (“GVENT”) with something like “meeting with sue tuesday at 3″ and it’ll put it on there for you.

The other key is to reference it often.  When I’m at home, I leave a browser open with tabs for Gmail, Google Calendar and Google Reader always open so they’re available for quick access.  Other tabs alongside them come and go, but those always remain.

Any other tips for making the best use of your calendar?